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Hi Everyone,
I've not posted for a while, but thought this may interest some of you.
I've just come back from Germany where I've been for the last week. I couldn't help but notice that the majority of German women (in Berlin and Dresden anyway!) wear some form of hosiery. I'm not normally that interested in what other women chose to wear and don't look too closely most of the time, but this seemed to stand out to me, perhaps due to the fact that it's becoming less common to see women wearing hosiery in the UK.
The also have some great hosiery departments in their department stores (and I made a couple of purchases  ). So, if any of you men (and women of course!) are heading over there this summer then I'm sure there will be plenty of sightings opportunities for you.
Take care,
MJ
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| Re: Germany |
Mon, 25 June 2007 09:50  |
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Hi!
For further information, there is actually a quite informative thread in the international forum which might be of interest to you. It deals with the German nylon scene, however the views of the contributors are much pessimistic as yours.
http://www.stockingshq.com/newforum/index.php/t/69685/?SQ=94 afc23c798c2290e4840676784ecf2c
IMHO, this might be explain by the fact that you probably aren't speaking about the same area of Germany (NRW and Rheinland-Pfalz are situated at the very West part of Germany, whereas Berlin and Sachsen at the very East part, as you know.)
[Updated on: Mon, 25 June 2007 09:53]
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| Re: Germany |
Mon, 25 June 2007 16:40 |
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I suppose that Germany has a very different way of dressing to the rest of Europe. The Germans do very much their own thing, to my understanding.
Here, in the UK we seem to have acquired the 'slob' look or footless tights with everything.
And white linen cargo trousers which highlight acres of cellulite bottom!
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| Re: Germany |
Wed, 27 June 2007 12:11 |
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Hi Mich.
I hope I am not shooting my self in the foot here. (pardon the punn like) 
I agree with you totally. "Leggings" are not the most attractive thing a woman can wear. LOL
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| Re: Germany |
Wed, 27 June 2007 14:43 |
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| StockingsD wrote on Wed, 27 June 2007 13:11 |
"Leggings" are not the most attractive thing a woman can wear. LOL
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They are certainly not. Here in Germany, too, a lot of girls and young women do wear these "things"... 
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| Re: Germany |
Wed, 27 June 2007 18:25 |
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Also I found some good stockings and high heels sites that are in german. I cant speak german so I will never know what they say......but at least I can look at the pictures. 
I think that Germans are probably one of the biggest Stockings lovers.. them and the dutch. I may of course be wrong. Just guessing.
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| Re: Germany |
Wed, 27 June 2007 20:54 |
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In my own experience German women dress better than British women. And if you go further east to Poland or Russian women actually look like women - and they are a lot tougher than British women too...making do with a lot less.
Makes me sad to say that but it's true.
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| Re: Germany |
Thu, 28 June 2007 21:03 |
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The Germans have that sexual freedom mentality which is far more outgoing and open than the British or the Americans. Its more Dutch and a bit more 'Ah well, there's nothing wrong with sex, everyone does it so we'll provide services for those who do.'
They also have burlesque cabaret in a big way from what I've heard.
I could be wrong though.
The Germans also make great spectacles.
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| Re: Germany |
Thu, 28 June 2007 23:45 |
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Hi there forum,
Where Mich may have a point with the sexual freedom mentality, I must throttle back on the sense for feminine and "proper"attire as we regard it here in the forum community. Especially not in the more rural areas. Sure, it's a different thing for the big cities like Berlin or Hamburg where the wealthier folks have the money and direct access to proper clothing. However, the larger part of the feminine inhabitants of my beloved country pretty much go inline with the standard way of dress.
But as you all know, here and there is the delight of the exception to the rule. I haven't had the pleasure to visit the Brits on their island really but as I was told, there seem to be many stocking-wearing ladies there.
Greets
Mac
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| Re: Germany |
Sun, 08 July 2007 22:23 |
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They are more pragmatic about sex and seem less likely to get into a huff over it officially like the British do. With all the cheating and unofficial polygamy/polyamory in the UK you'd think by now we'd have relaxed a little but one only needs to look at the tabloids to see sex is still shocking in the UK.
Having lived overseas for seven years I find the continental western europeans are slightly more open minded about human sexuality with the French and Germans being the most open minded in my experience...
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| Re: Germany |
Tue, 10 July 2007 16:47 |
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Hi,
Being German and having lived in Germany mainly for thirty plus years, as well as being a daily stockings wearer, i just had to comment...
Firstly, i know of NO major town and certainly NO city which doesnt have a department store like Karstadt or Kaufhof, and ALL department stores until today still sell stockings, as well as the dreaded PH/Ti***s. Both of the ones mentioned even still have their OWN make and brand of stockings, including seams (although not FFs). That is becuase they are still popular and are still worn, NOT because we are more sexually liberated, (although i think that is true as well), but because it is well known in Germany, as it is in France and Holland and elsewhere in Europe (where we didnt have Mary Quant propagander in the 1960's so much, as she wasn't one of our nationals), that PH/T***ts are actually a health risk for a lot of women and are in a lot of ways more expensive/less convienient...
As an aside, in Germany, all major "millionenstadt" cities also have Beate Uhse and Orion shops (sex and lingerie shops, and NO I dont mean like Anne Summers!) and Vogal (expensive Hosiery shops) on the high streets in main shopping areas, as well as Wolford shops...
But you see, there is a major issue even in the replies to this thread here, which I just have to tackle... WHY does the thread veer so suddenly into talking about sex and sexual mores when discussing the fact that more women in germany wear Stockings than seem to in the UK? - Yes Stockings ARE worn for sex too, but you see, a lot of women are not programmed into the "top shelf", "page three" mentality that says in the UK that if women wear stockings it MUST be just for sex, - mustn't it?
Actually most, (including myself when i was there and all of my many friends who still are), wear because; a) they feel good, b) they feel/look/seem elegant, c) They are different than the following the crowd, d) They are healthier and THEN e) they are sexy too!
Love,
Nikki.
xxx
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shqpics1
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| Re: Germany |
Tue, 10 July 2007 19:35 |
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But you see, there is a major issue even in the replies to this thread here, which I just have to tackle... WHY does the thread veer so suddenly into talking about sex and sexual mores when discussing the fact that more women in germany wear Stockings than seem to in the UK? - Yes Stockings ARE worn for sex too, but you see, a lot of women are not programmed into the "top shelf", "page three" mentality that says in the UK that if women wear stockings it MUST be just for sex, - mustn't it?
Actually most, (including myself when i was there and all of my many friends who still are), wear because; a) they feel good, b) they feel/look/seem elegant, c) They are different than the following the crowd, d) They are healthier and THEN e) they are sexy too!
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I suppose it is because, to us Brits, continental Europe (France, Germany etc) always appears to have a more pragmatic and practical attitude to sex than we Brits do.
I shall offer an interesting example: In our country we have Ann Summers shops whose windows display tatty lingerie and their own brand stockings. They also display quite coyly, the Rampant Rabbit vibrator, yet nowhere in the window display is any allusions made TO WHAT IT IS USED FOR ie giving women sexual pleasure. Also, you don't have much nudity on Ann Summers websites. Contrast this with Orion's website and Ars Vivendi, which is full of pretty frank and very does-what-it-says-on-the-tin type of advertising. Orions and Ars Vivendi is very much no holds barred. You are left in no doubt as to what they sell. I understand both are German, although corect me if I'm wrong.
Secondly, a lot of German films I've seen show more grown up attitudes towards nudity and sex. For the Germans, sex is a necessary and enjoyable part of life, I suspect, like stockings. You enjoy it and everyone is doing it (unless they are a catholic priest, nun, minor or really old person). The British tend to have a more prudish attitude to the old bedroom gymnastics. For examples, I give you the Carry On films. Full of sexual innuendo and risque jokes but no actual nudity or sex. I also give you Page 3, the British answer to men who like to look at womens breasts. The British like to pretend (yes, pretend) that we don't bother with sex. We find talking about it difficult and watching it is very embarrassing.
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| Re: Germany |
Wed, 11 July 2007 00:38 |
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Total me too on Nikki's post (not that I'm German but I've gone there every February since 1994), but the spelling is FOGAL not Vogal and yes, Wolford, Fogal, Beate Uhse - they're all on the main shopping high streets alongside Prada - La Perla - H&M and all the other big-brand name fashion shops.
Even though I've whinged in the past about fewer lingerie shops in big German cities that are selling stockings / hosiery, there are still shops that sell stockings... just less than before.
I'm quite chuffed that Nikki brought this up, because I'm super bullish on Germany and German stuffage.
xx
Mike
| Nikkisnylons wrote on Tue, 10 July 2007 08:47 |
Firstly, i know of NO major town and certainly NO city which doesnt have a department store like Karstadt or Kaufhof, and ALL department stores until today still sell stockings, as well as the dreaded PH/Ti***s. Both of the ones mentioned even still have their OWN make and brand of stockings, including seams (although not FFs)...
As an aside, in Germany, all major "millionenstadt" cities also have Beate Uhse and Orion shops (sex and lingerie shops, and NO I dont mean like Anne Summers!) and Vogal (expensive Hosiery shops) on the high streets in main shopping areas, as well as Wolford shops...
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| Re: Germany |
Wed, 11 July 2007 10:57 |
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Hi Mike,
Quite right, it's Fogal, not Vogal (was a typo, keys too close together for longer nails)...
But while we are on the subject, - Vill yoo pleeze hexplain too mee zeez wort "Stuffage"? - lol.
Love,
Nikki.
xxx
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