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what do you all make of the new look stockings hq website ???? Sat, 02 February 2008 09:46 Go to next message
lovesshoedangling
the new revamped site any comments on it???

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Re: what do you all make of the new look stockings hq website ???? Sat, 02 February 2008 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Blue Tony
I really like it good job Very Happy

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Re: what do you all make of the new look stockings hq website ???? Sat, 02 February 2008 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stockingswelt
The darker blue looks good. And the home page pic is fantastic.
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Re: what do you all make of the new look stockings hq website ???? Sat, 02 February 2008 23:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ffnylonstockings
I see there is a new hosiery glossary added too (well, the old silk-stockings site one really) with lots of tights items so SHQ is no longer a gusset free zone...

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Re: what do you all make of the new look stockings hq website ???? Sun, 03 February 2008 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mich
You must have been looking at Tightsandmore.com.

No tights on here!

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Re: what do you all make of the new look stockings hq website ???? Sun, 03 February 2008 19:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ffnylonstockings
Mich wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 19:32

You must have been looking at Tightsandmore.com.

No tights on here!




Ahem.... This is a stockingshq url not a tightsandmore url for the glossary. So there are tights on here!

http://www.stockingshq.com/articles/shq_hosiery_faq.htm
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Re: what do you all make of the new look stockings hq website ???? Sun, 03 February 2008 19:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ffnylonstockings
There is even a photo of tights on the homepage advertising the other site!
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Re: what do you all make of the new look stockings hq website ???? Mon, 04 February 2008 00:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jo
Site looks nice, but I can't believe they didn't update to a CSS driven design. There's still bucket loads of font tags everywhere. There's no need for that any more.

They changed all the URLs for all the pages. The old URLs were far too long, and the new system is much more simple. However, as all the old URLs listed in Google still work, there could be some problems looming as Google reindexes the site.

There's an insane amount of Javascript code on the pages; that stuff really should be off-loaded to external files. Most of the meta tags are not necessary, and can be dumped. The description tag is vital, and is not currently being used to best effect.

[Updated on: Mon, 04 February 2008 00:23]

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Re: what do you all make of the new look stockings hq website ???? Mon, 04 February 2008 21:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David@SHQ
Many thanks for the feedback, I'll address some of the points raised:

1. Thanks for the nice comments about the photography. I've been doing ever more of late and there will be new pictures for the SHQ 4, 6 and 8 strap belts, the Cleopatra range and the Cervin Javas in the next couple of days. They're already done and ready for editing. The SHQ belts will all have the new "purple shirt-yellow flowers" look and I may well turn some into wallpapers as they've extremely high resolution and it would be nice to use them in a larger size than product pictures allow.

2. Yes the hosiery glossary is based on the old Silk Stockings FAQ. It was a useful piece of content that we acquired when we inherited the site. It has, however, been heavily edited and augmented. There are tights terms in there, but I though it was legitimate as it's designed as a comprehensive guide to all hosiery terms. It doesn't mean that tights will appear in the shop though. There has been much soul searching since we acquired Silk Stockings. We didn't realise that there going to be so many tights customers. The current compromise is, however, I think fair.

3. I was amused to read the comment "I can't believe they didn't update to a CSS driven design". It's almost exclusively CSS! It's all I've been learning for ages (and especially since December, due in large part to spending about three weeks incapacitated due to a footballing injury!). The home page and all the articles are almost exclusively done in CSS - with the exception of the glossary. I didn't have time to convert that before the launch but it's on the agenda. There's also a huge amount of CSS behind the shop and forums. I'll admit I cheated a bit and used an HTML table instead of CSS for the middle content area of the front page, but that was a quick shortcut to help ensure it launched on time. All of the content within the table is formatted with CSS though. I've just spent weeks writing CSS, verifying it, testing it in multiple browsers, trying to make sure that the site is as fast to load as possible, so please point me in the direction of the "bucket loads of font tags" and I'll be in your debt. I deliberately did a site-wide search and replace to remove them! Are you sure you're not still looking at legacy pages or the old version of the shop?

4. Likewise I've personally used hardly any JavaScript. The old shop software was full of it. There is some in the new version but it's far lighter than it was. Dave looked after the JavaScript and CSS side of the shop development and I know some was utilised there but I wouldn't call it an insane amount. There was in the old shop software though, I'll give you that, but it was outside our control.

Many thanks again for the feedback though!

David@SHQ
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Re: what do you all make of the new look stockings hq website ???? Tue, 05 February 2008 01:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jo
I just picked a page at random, like http://www.stockingshq.com/shop/home.php?cat=401 and then clicked "view source" to see the JS code included within the HTML code.

There is a great chunk of it, and then another, and then another. The HTML file (with the JS included) is 274 K, which is pretty huge. More than 50% of it is JavaScript. The code is 8200 lines long.

There's very little content for search engines to index; less than 10% of it is indexable content. The JS code ought to be external. I'll go check a few other pages and see what they are like.

I eat this stuff all day long:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stockings hq.com%2Fshop%2Fhome.php%3Fcat%3D401&charset=%28detect+a utomatically%29&doctype=Inline&ss=1&outline=1&am p;am p;am p;group=0&verbose=1

Apologies for the technical intermission.

[Updated on: Tue, 05 February 2008 01:10]

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Re: what do you all make of the new look stockings hq website ???? Tue, 05 February 2008 02:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jo
Having more than 30 different URLs for the root page of the site will eventually kill the site in at least Google:
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&filter=0&q=site :stockingshq.com+inurl:kbid



This is the search to watch. It doesn't include any pages from the forums, old shop, or articles. This is the one to watch for problems, and to see the new shop appearing in the index:
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&filter=0&q=site %3Astockingshq.com+-inurl%3Anewforum+-inurl%3Asheertemptatio n+-inurl%3Aarticles



This search shows the pages from the old shop, still indexed:
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&filter=0&q=site %3Astockingshq.com+inurl%3Asheertemptation.
The old shop was very searchengine unfriendly by the look of things.

[Updated on: Tue, 05 February 2008 02:08]

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Re: what do you all make of the new look stockings hq website ???? Sat, 09 February 2008 22:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jo
Google has found the new shop pages...
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&filter=0&q=site %3Astockingshq.com+inurl%3Acat

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Re: what do you all make of the new look stockings hq website ???? Mon, 11 February 2008 01:09 Go to previous message
jo
The dual effects of results clustering and duplicate content filtering will likely knock a major hole in what's been indexed within a few weeks.
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