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My observations Sat, 10 May 2008 19:49 Go to next message
Vannes
Ok i have read the posts in relation to my earlier thread.
I used the phrase 'discuss' very deliberately as I feel that from a male perspective, however we try to disguise things, this site is about sexual allure. An excellent and noble reason may I add.
I have no doubt that some females on this site may be able to divorce stockings from sexual allure but, trust me, the males go to the outfits and sightings forum for one reason only - and it is not to discuss the merits of this or that or the other.
Stockings are sexy. Always have been. Always will be. They are associated with sex which is the very reason why this site was developed. And I for one am grateful that all females, and their stockings, exist.
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Re: My observations Sat, 10 May 2008 20:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lincoln Lady
It is such a shame that people only visit the one area here, as you rightly say the Outfits/sightings. There is plenty going on within the other forums, and we have added our little bit on several occasions, whilst supporting friends who take the time to show their outfits.

In this house stockings are worn every day by my wife, and we suspect that is the same in many households. Not for sexual allure, but they are preferred over the altrnative out there, you know the one, tights (that was difficult to say Shocked ) , or trousers.

Stockings do get a bad press, and that is why they are associated with sex. You only have to look on the High Street. Can you find a decent suspender belt, of course not. Those on sale are only fit for the bedroom, and that in some repects degrades the ladies who wear them all the time.

This site was possibly started to sell stockings, and the forums have developed over time to what we see now. Stockings should not only be associated with sex, but as a preferred form of underwear, which some men happen to find sexy.
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Re: My observations Sun, 11 May 2008 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nickandffsally
you have a good point guys . we were amazed last weekend . we were in wilkos in newark and spotted a small range of stockings amoungst hords of tights , so i took a pair to the counter with the gardening items i was purchacing , at the counter the 40 ish woman that served me said , " oh didnt think that anyone one wore this type of thing now " , i replyed. have you ever wore them ? if we dont wear them , why do you sell them here then of do you just put the on the shelves for fun ??
. her reply "must be for the bed room then oh in for a good night then " and she winked i replyed , err no dear i think not , and gave her a glipse of what was under my cotton skirt , she didnt say else anything apart from . could you pop your pin in please , the poor boy who was packing the shoping went all red in the face .

i wear stockings a few times a week mainly for work but not all the time but why does it have to be for the bedroom only ??
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Re: My observations Sun, 11 May 2008 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
melmoth
For some, stockings are linked with sex, for others they are not (or not primarily). However, what does it mean to say "Stockings do get a bad press, and that is why they are associated with sex."? Why does the idea of sex and the erotic still have so many negative associations?
Whilst I perfect understand that a stocking on it's own is a garment - no more, no less, I don't see why its association with one the best things in life (i.e. sex) is a bad thing. Any garment that enhances a woman's beauty is inevitably going
to take on some sexual value for many people who are interested in women sexually - that's not a bad thing, in fact it is quite natural. Do people have the same conversations about high heels, corsets, bullet bras etc etc?
As well as stockings I have a penchant for jumpers on women - does that somehow besmirch the reputation of jumpers?
Some will say it is because stockings are too often associated with 'tartiness' or pornography. Nonsense. A cursory review of modern internet pornography (for example) will reveal that you are just as likely to see a picture of a girl in thong and socks, or tights, or rubber, or a thousand other things as you are in stockings.
As for real life, I visit Soho regularly to photograph burlesque events. The women I see on street corners or in the doorways of sex clubs are rarely wearing hosiery of any sorts. If anything, miniskirts/hotpants and a teeshirt are the modern 'tarty' look (if we must use such pigeon-holing). I had a friend who used to go clubbing in nothing but seamed stockings and a basque or corset. She was free to express the erotic side of her nature - I did not consider her tarty - she was anything but.
It's time people stopped worrying about classifications that have been imposed by the conservatism and prudery of past ages. We are supposed to be free, but we bind ourselves in so many chains.....

And for the record, although stockings do have a sexual connection for me, Outfits and Sitings is the forum I visit the least on this site (with the exception of 'male issues'). Just because something can be sexual, doesn't mean that's the only thing that matters about it.

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Re: My observations Sun, 11 May 2008 14:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EllenMurphy
Stockings may be "sexy" and have "sexual allure," but they are still an article of clothing to a lot of women including myself. I wear stockings to give a little color to my legs and not as a beacon for men to follow. They also provide a little protection from the cold.
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Re: My observations Sun, 11 May 2008 15:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
miss fox
Definately have to agree with Ellen, although I love stockings in general for their comfort (as opposed to t****s) I usually wear them as part of a burlesque costume (where stockings are a main part of a lot of performances) or to give my otherwise pasty legs a bit of colour!

Although I do like the psychological effect of wearing them (ie feelings of personal allure- linked to the perceived sexual connotations of stockings) and the effect they can have on others, I cannot see them as a sexual object in themselves.

If I had known nothing from the media etc of the sexual connotations of stockings (as I didn't when I was younger and started wearing them) then I would merely see them as another choice to t****s.

I love the 'airy' feeling of stockings, especially in this glorious sunshine Very Happy
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Re: My observations Sun, 11 May 2008 18:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mich
I think you're bang on the money, Lincoln Lady. Its a pity that sex seems to creep further and further into the wearing of hosiery. After all, Wallace-Crothers didn't invent his 'plastic' for the sole intention of sex.

Why does everything have to have 'sexual allure'? Can't it simply be worn because its more comfortable than tolerating badly fitting tights?

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Re: My observations Mon, 12 May 2008 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
melmoth
Mich wrote on Sun, 11 May 2008 18:28

I think you're bang on the money, Lincoln Lady. Its a pity that sex seems to creep further and further into the wearing of hosiery. After all, Wallace-Crothers didn't invent his 'plastic' for the sole intention of sex.

Why does everything have to have 'sexual allure'? Can't it simply be worn because its more comfortable than tolerating badly fitting tights?



Of course it can - but I still don't understand why the sexual allure of them is such a bad thing.
If you like it, consider it a bonus, if you don't (or couldn't care less), ignore it.
Maybe I'm being naive or ignorant in not understanding the concerns you and LL have expressed - if so, I apologise.
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Re: My observations Mon, 12 May 2008 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fingers
Why not just have
1) a forum about wearing stockings -mainly for women, include the product stuff here.

2) a forum about stockings and sex - share ideas,problems, here all the men (incl myself) can moan about their SO's not dressing up for them

3) Outfits/sightings. etc.

and make it members only so you must be logged in to see a posting.
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Re: My observations Mon, 12 May 2008 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rowlf
I don't understand why people are obsessed with stockings being sexual or not. I believe that literally every part of our societies evolve around sexual implications. One can't get away from that fact. The problem is that many look upon this type lingerie as lewd or obscene, primarily based on conditioning throughout their life. I think this forum handles these different viewpoints in an even handed way.

In my case, at the end of the day, if I have extra time, I will view my favorite websites. Among them are tractor sites, NASA, and, of course, this one. I just lean back in my easy chair and make the real world go away. It's very relaxing!

Now the I would imagine that some individuals may "abuse" themselves while visiting this website, but so what? If we knew all that went on behind closed doors, it would scare the Hell out of us.

Rowlf
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Re: My observations Mon, 12 May 2008 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gripper
It amazes me that so many people get hot under the collar about sex, dressing up in sexy clothes, or exactly how much of a woman’s body should be shown, when on an average night on TV we can watch casual violence, murder, rape, beatings, abuse and wars, all presented in the name of entertainment.

If I had to choose what to allow my children to watch, I’d far sooner they saw people doing loving things together, even if it meant they might be exposed to a glimpse of nipple or stocking top (gasp!) that the everyday hate that is so commonplace it goes unnoticed and uncommented on.
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Re: My observations Mon, 12 May 2008 20:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lincoln Lady
It doesn't go unoticed by Flickr, and they take great delight in messing about with peoples accounts so that you have to be signed in to see the pictures. They call them sexualised if you happen to show stocking tops. It matters not that daily papers here show a great deal more. Puritanical over there, but they do like to start the odd war, then cannot finish it Smile
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Re: My observations Tue, 13 May 2008 08:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
matt2matt2002
Mich wrote on Sun, 11 May 2008 18:28



Why does everything have to have 'sexual allure'? Can't it simply be worn because its more comfortable than tolerating badly fitting tights?




Have you heard of that chappie, Freud?
Take a few hours to read up on a few of his theories and I think you'll be surprised at what and why folks are 'turned on'
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Re: My observations Tue, 13 May 2008 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
matt2matt2002
gripper wrote on Mon, 12 May 2008 14:50

It amazes me that so many people get hot under the collar about sex, dressing up in sexy clothes, or exactly how much of a woman’s body should be shown, when on an average night on TV we can watch casual violence, murder, rape, beatings, abuse and wars, all presented in the name of entertainment.

If I had to choose what to allow my children to watch, I’d far sooner they saw people doing loving things together, even if it meant they might be exposed to a glimpse of nipple or stocking top (gasp!) that the everyday hate that is so commonplace it goes unnoticed and uncommented on.



Quite right gripper.
Maybe it has something to do with 'how' it is presented rather than the 'what'. If you get my drift?
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Re: My observations Tue, 13 May 2008 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
matt2matt2002
Fingers wrote on Mon, 12 May 2008 12:22

Why not just have
1) a forum about wearing stockings -mainly for women, include the product stuff here.

2) a forum about stockings and sex - share ideas,problems, here all the men (incl myself) can moan about their SO's not dressing up for them

3) Outfits/sightings. etc.

and make it members only so you must be logged in to see a posting.



Good idea indeed. But that would make life too simple for the folks here that love to go over the old ground again and again!
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Re: My observations Tue, 13 May 2008 23:23 Go to previous message
Fifi
Frankly I have had more sex wearing tights than stockings, but that may be a question of age (now in 30's!). Present legwear and B/f more rewarding however.
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